Beauties & Beaties

Tuesday, September 12, 2006

BvB At The Movies

Today on BvB, The Beauty and the Beast look at good and bad relationships in the movies. The lovely and talented Laurie from Stranded In Suburbia and the Wild Man of the Web, Metal Mark from Heavy Metal Time Machine give their views to the question, ' What do you think are the best examples of a good and a bad relationship on film.'

She said: When Fuzz presented me with the topic for my second appearance here at BvB, I wasn’t sure how I was going to handle it. The topic, "Examples of good relationships and bad relationships in movies" stumped me. Why? Well my first thought was that unlike most of my girlfriends, I hate hate HATE those so-called "chick-flicks", so the "usual" female viewpoint on movies doesn’t apply to me. Then, I thought that while there are plenty of examples of bad relationships in movies, there aren’t many "good" examples. Because you see, I think the "good" examples are actually too good to be true. For instance, the example presented in the film "Pretty Woman": Street ho meets very rich john who falls in love with her after paying for her "services", and then sweeps her off her feet in the end to live happily ever after. As if. That movie caused many a ho to wrongly believe that her knight in shining armor was just another $50 hummer away.

My favorite example of a good relationship would be the one between that beauty, Fay Wray, and her beast, the one and only King Kong. Yeah, he kidnapped her, carried her along as he smashed his way through New York City, and then climbed to the top of the Empire State Building with her in his grasp – but – he loved her unconditionally as only a big monkey can, and he died for her in the end. Pass the tissue, would ya?

"Walk the Line", a movie based on reality, told the amazing love story of the man in black, Johnny Cash, and his beloved June Carter. Though stormy at times, their relationship was solid, and their love for each other lasted until death did they part.

Bad relationship examples are, like I said, much easier to come up with when thinking about the movies. The best bad example by far, at least in my opinion, is the relationship between Glenn Close and Michael Douglas in "Fatal Attraction". Also known as the married man’s worst nightmare, I think Glenn’s performance as a post-bootycall crazed psycho-stalker kept a lot of guys from cheating for a while after seeing this movie - at least for a week or so, anyway.
Another bad relationship was the one between Demi Moore and Woody Harrelson in "Indecent Proposal". Desperate for money, Woody decides to let a millionaire bag his wife for a cool million bucks. Predictably, his wife falls for the millionaire’s big hard wallet and leaves her husband. The lesson here is that money can buy love… or something.

Don’t forget about the good old fashioned porn flick, either. Now, there may be some debate on whether they set a good example or a bad example for relationships, but I think it’s all in how you look at it. If you think that pornos are "degrading" to women, well, then you’ll say "bad example". However, if you are like me and think that there is nothing wrong with a no-strings attached, purely physical, just-for-fun bootycall between two consenting adults – well, then you’d say "good example".

Anyway, those are my thoughts… what are yours?

Beauty signing off

He Said: What is the best and worst examples of a relationship that you have seen in a movie and why?

Okay, so I had to come up with the best and worst examples of a relationship from the movies. I watch a lot of sci-fi and horror films so those are where my examples came from. At first I thought that the worst relationship was Ash (Bruce Campbell) and his girlfriend Linda from the excellent Evil Dead 2 because he killed her because the Book of the dead had taken her over and then her possessed corpse tried to kill him. However that doesn’t really count because she was technically possessed rather than thinking with her own free mind. So the real worst example of a relationship in a movie is between Sidney (Neve Campbell) and Billy (Skeet Ulrich) in Scream. Sidney had been through a lot with her mother’s death and she thought she had a strong relationship with Billy. However, it turned the relationship wasn’t real on Billy’s part because:

*spoiler alert* (although I can’t imagine that you have not seen this film)

Billy had killed Sidney’s mom with his partner, killed her best friend, beat up her father and they planned to frame him for multiple murders. Then they tried to kill Sidney and they inspired killers in two less than adequate sequels. Hey, you just don’t do that in a relationship, it’s just not right. However Billy got his and Sidney made it through the trilogy. This was an example of a relationship that involved lies, deceit and well, all the bad stuff I listed above.

The best was more difficult to come up with.

The best relationship actually takes place over several movies and it’s Han Solo (Harrison Ford) and Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) from the first three Star Wars movies or the Episodes 4-6 if you go by that. They bicker in the first film, but you tall they like each and they do come from different backgrounds. They bicker more in the second film, but you can see them drawing closer a bit in Empire. Then poor Han gets frozen and you can tell Leia is upset, but probably not as upset as Han because he was you know...frozen. When Han is back to normal in Jedi then you can see their relationship start to get stronger and you can tell that it will be strong. I mean they went through numerous battles, getting shot at, Han got frozen, Leia had to wear that outfit at the beginning of the third film and they had to put up Billy Dee Williams “acting abilities”. Yet they became closer through all of that so you just know they will be together forever or until one of them gets knocked off in a battle against the Empire.


Blogger :P fuzzbox said...

Great job by the Beauty and the Beast. I half to agree with MM on the Han and Leia example. It was the first thing that popped into my mind as well right after Linda Lovelace and John Holmes in Deep Throat. Now that was a couple that were meant for one another.

7:18 PM  
Blogger Curare_Z said...

Great job you guys! You made me laugh at loud. Good thing no one else is at work yet. Ya'll did get me thinking though (I know, dangerous past time). For me:

Good example: Korben Dallas (played by Bruce Willis) and Leeloo (played by Milla Jovovich) in The Fifth Element. My favorite movie...he's a good guy down on his luck and he's "saved" by love in the form of the ever hot Milla Jovovich. Come on, who hasn't dreamed of that?

Bad example: Mickey and Mallory Knox (Woody Harrelson and Juliette Lewis) from Natural Born Killers. Sure, they had a lot in common, but being psychopathic serial killers together just CAN'T be a good thing.

3:59 AM  
Blogger Laurie said...

That was fun!

MM - those are great examples :-)

Fuzz, why am I not surprised at the mention of "Deep Throat"? LOL

5:21 AM  
Blogger Jodes said...

Awesome Job Laurie....interesting post and interesting movies you both picked.

7:25 AM  
Blogger David Amulet said...

Good job, both. A good review of cinema for all of us. Let's not forget the great love triangle--well, sort of--between Brad Pitt, Edward Norton Jr., and Helena Bonham Carter in Fight Club.

-- david

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Bruce said...

The thing about most "good" relationships in movies is that you get to see the initial spark, and then it's roll credits(While You Were Sleeping, for example). Whereas, the bad relationships usually last throughout the entire film(i.e., Sleeping With the Enemy, War of the Roses). Not sure what that means; just throwin' it out there...

9:03 AM  
Blogger Mike said...

Good job you two.

Laurie - A big ape that will do anything for you, huh? Sounds like every womans dream.

Mark - Leia - "I love you"
Han - "I Know"

1:59 PM  
Blogger Green Eyes said...

Great post! Loved both of your examples. I imagine it was hard to narrow it down to a few!

Fatal Attraction was some crazy shit! That poor bunny rabbit! *sigh

8:28 AM  
Blogger SuedeCaramel said...


Maybe Andrew Shepherd and Sidney Ellen-Wade in The American President? A classic story of a woman inspiring the evolution of a good man to becoming a great man, here we see two successful people, unthreatened by each other's careers, previous relationships (he's a widower), and obligations. We see a woman unwilling to put up with games and deception, but willing to forgive. We see a man who's earnest and caring, and a president who's willing to admit when he's wrong! Pure fiction? Maybe. But not too much to dream for, perhaps.


Well, I don't want to get all spoiler on you, but go see "The Last Kiss", now in theaters, and you'll get plenty of examples. Bring tissues, though. This movie has something to remind everyone of the bitter mistakes they've made.


1:41 AM  
Blogger Lori's Minute said...

Is your question only for lovers or other relationships? Because I think the relationship of Star Wars Luke and his father Darth is interesting and I love the realtionship of Julia Roberts and sally Field mother/daughter in Steel Magnolias.

For love interest I like Keanu Reeves and Sandra Bullock in 'Speed' and Richard Gere and Debra in 'An Officer and a Gentlemen" ...for worst, I dunno, I gotta think on that one.

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Blogger Big D said...

That's was great! Best BvB ever!

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